Just a thought...what if Zurg is a brain pod living in an advanced robotic suit?
That would explain why he is never seen not wearing his trademark outfit, his lack of walking animation (in several clips he appears to be gliding across the floor, though this could just be the animators not wanting to animate the robe's movements) and his unusual abilities could be technology installed into his suit, such as the gauntlets that can change into weapons, and his laser vision could just be regular lasers installed around the eyes.
This would also help explain why in the Club Buzz slide show, he was able to be stopped by having his battery removed.
It also would explain the lack of consistent evidence supporting wether or not he is a robot, since as a brain pod in a suit, he would still need organic substances such as food and water, and still need to sleep.
As for him wearing rocket boots, it's possible he still has legs, but they are attached to wheels or treads (like XR) and thus he could still wear them. Or, it's possible the rocket boots were altered so be attached to his robotic body.
Or he could have just lied about the boots, too, I guess.
Well, I don't think you can really rely on "Club Buzz" for such information, given it's exclusively Toy Story-related. XR, NOS and other bots certainly don't run on just batteries, but if they were ever in Toy Story I bet that'd be one of the methods used to "shut" them down. And in Toy Story 3 they "reset" Buzz, which is certainly undoable in BLoSC. xD
I seem to distinctly remember a scene in "First Missions" where we can see the fold of Zurg's knees through his robes, so he must have some sort of legs. Also, if his suit is just a suit... then why did it melt into that goo in "The Crawling Flesh" episode? :o
I wouldn't place my bets on him being a Brain Pod, but he's probably not 100% organic. Just as he's probably not 100% machine-based, either. They've kept us guessing about Zurg's origins for years already, haha.
That's why it's up to the fans to imagine for themselves what Zurg is. Pixar and Disney, I don't feel, are gonna bring this show back now. Maybe in another time and place, if they will choose to listen to their target audience, it's possible they may bring it back. But for now, fans need to use their imaginations and figure out what Zurg is for themselves. Will it cause debate? Of course it will. But in the end, as long as you are satisfied with your own answer and question, then you know what Zurg is.
Well, My other theory is that his species was just never seen in the show, and his species is either endangered or the main inhabitants of his planet...who are never really seen. If you think about it, the only residents of Planet Z we see are his henchmen.
On Zurg's species? Heh. Well, I know that he's not completely all machine; he wouldn't be able to eat popcorn shrimp if that were the case. It's possible that the suit can fit to whatever his needs are: to express his emotions, to protect him against the elements... either that, or the simplest theory I can think of: we're not meant to know. *laughs*
Well, my personal theory is that he's an alien. I used to think just alien, but I'm starting to think he has some cybernetic parts too, instead of everything just being armor and hi-tech. My theories on Zurg are plentiful, 'cause he's my absolute favorite, hehe. Like, he seems to have major beef with the Galactic Alliance in particular, beyond his take-over-the-galaxy tendencies. He also has major moodswings and displays schaudenfreude, and probably other psychology things I haven't delved into properly yet.
Oh, and he is in no way related to Buzz Lightyear, either. Just... no.
Or maybe Zurg is a title given to whoever is ruling the planet, kind of like "The Dread Pirate Roberts" in The Princess Bride. Nana Zurg, his Grandmother, could have ruled the planet prior to him, and then gave him the title of "Zurg"
This could explain the Toy Story thing, too. What if a previous Zurg was Buzz's father, and the current Zurg isn't, which is what gave the current Zurg the idea to claim to be Buzz's Father, and Buzz was like, "What?" and..
... okay maybe the Buzz's Father thing is going a wee bit too far.
I don't necessary agree because I feel that Zurg already has a title. He is the Evil Emperor Zurg, and if he had a surname, we would have gotten some indication. I mean, there are kings and queens and emperors and other members of monarchy who are given the titles of "King Charlemagne" or "Queen Elizabeth" or so on and so forth and those titles have first names.
Now granted, there may be monarchs who use their last names alongside their first names or just their last names in general, but for the most part, monarchs address themselves as "Royal Title First Name".
It's possible that Zurg refers to his grandmother because she has a name like Zurg too or it's just a name that's been passed on from generation to generation.
I personally believe that Zurg is an organic creature with legs and feet. I like the idea he is an alien instead, but in The Torque Armada you can hear his footsteps when he is walking away from Torque on the table. I doubt the producers would put that minor detail into him to find it was just a fake-out and he was just a little brain in a suit with wheels.
18.104.22.168 wrote: I personally believe that Zurg is an organic creature with legs and feet. I like the idea he is an alien instead, but in The Torque Armada you can hear his footsteps when he is walking away from Torque on the table. I doubt the producers would put that minor detail into him to find it was just a fake-out and he was just a little brain in a suit with wheels.
hey, just for the record, I think they stole from Star Wars and that Zurg is actually Lightyear's dad in a robo siut like Vader. He did admit to being Lightyear's dad in toy story. I think he's organic, an alien of dsome sort, or human. Here's my theory: Zurg was once a guy named Cade Lightyear, and shortly after the birth of his son, Buzz, got into a bad accident, causing him to be put in a bio suit and he went bad. But he was a space ranger once. Also, Star Command was going to create energy vamps but scrapped the project, that's how Zurg got the plans for NOS.
22.214.171.124 wrote: hey, just for the record, I think they stole from Star Wars and that Zurg is actually Lightyear's dad in a robo siut like Vader. He did admit to being Lightyear's dad in toy story. I think he's organic, an alien of dsome sort, or human. Here's my theory: Zurg was once a guy named Cade Lightyear, and shortly after the birth of his son, Buzz, got into a bad accident, causing him to be put in a bio suit and he went bad. But he was a space ranger once. Also, Star Command was going to create energy vamps but scrapped the project, that's how Zurg got the plans for NOS.
First: It wasn't "stolen" it's called homage, it's one of the most basic film concepts.
Second: Toy Story takes place in a separate world than the animated series.
In the series, he was lying, and both Zurg and Buzz make it obvious he was lying, from Buzz's "What?" in a "How stupid do you think I am?" tone, to Zurg laughing at Buzz for letting Zurg's lie catch him off gaurd.
See the video to the right if you don't believe me.
There's no proof of this at all in the show, but I theorize that Zurg wiped out or enslaved his entire species. He's either extinct, or, as a personal favorite headcanon of mine, he executed everyone who was useless in his eyes and took the brains of the scientists, technicians, etc. and put them in the brain pods, doing that with every other planet he conquers. It makes it all the more understandable as to why everyone hates/is terrified of him.
I admit, I've never thought of that theory before, but I do believe that it's an interesting theory and that it leads room to discussion! I don't know how I feel about Zurg wiping out his whole species, but it is possible that maybe somewhere down the road, he went mad with power, enslaved others of his own kind, and placed their brains, along with the brains of other people, into Brain Pods.
I personally like to believe that Zurg transformed some of these people into Grubs and/or Brain Pods to inject fear into the Galactic Alliance and also because from where I stand, Zurg does seem act like a businessman at times. We've seen him making deals, offering money, talking about statistics and percentages, talking and engaging in boosting Grubs in their morale and about their productivity, etc. It would almost seem to be a large move for him in the world of business to change people, even of his own kind if he has to, into his workers to save on money for his galaxy conquesting. This isn't the case with every planet of course; like the evil emperor he is, he knows when to engage in old-fashioned conquesting and have a ball with it.
Er, anyway. I sincerely think you've got an interesting theory and I say it's open for discussion. (:
I like imagining the Grubs being their own species. As for the brain pods, evidence seems to indicate they are their own species and not actual brains. I mean, there's Star Crossed where that one brain pod that later on becomes Romac's sidekick ate pizza. And I believe there was another instance where brain pods were shown to have mouths outside of their suits in the... Shiv Katall episode, was it? However, in The Adventure Begins, one of them suggests there was a time before and after they were put in a jar? Maybe the suits are some sort of "special priviledge" of working with Zurg and not something they normally have.
Whoops, sorry for rambling so long about brain pods without actually mentioning Zurg's species at all, haha. But yeah, all those sound like great theories. He doesn't appear to be the most stable individual on a whole, so you could very well say it's due to having wiped out his own species, or being the last of his species, or any other such thing. Perhaps he finds comfort in running things like a business. Numbers don't lie, after all. ;)
oh come on pixar/disney plz bring back the show! like about the brain pods and if zurg is really buzz´s dad why cant there be a movie about this it be in buzz lightyear of star command 2 if disney/pixar would do it.
Reece0123 wrote: oh come on pixar/disney plz bring back the show! like about the brain pods and if zurg is really buzz´s dad why cant there be a movie about this it be in buzz lightyear of star command 2 if disney/pixar would do it.
Reece, I believe Pyro means at 1:05, when Buzz says "What?" because Zurg's "confession" caught him off-guard, thus allowing Zurg to punch him for an easy getaway. Pyro essentially meant Buzz's tone was disbelieving, not that he said those words, specifically!
My take on this scene is that it was an obvious homage to Star Wars, down to the crystal rods acting like lightsabers, and not meant to be taken seriously. :D
Also, if you would like to have discussions that aren't about Zurg's species -- since this is what this thread is about! -- please make new threads to dicsuss them, thank you!
wait why did commander nebula called him helmet head in planet destroyer? so could he be human? and kept it a secret from grubs,brain pods and his henchmans so does zurg wear a helmet to hides his idenity as human and he is really buzz's dad?
@Reece: Not exactly necessarily. One doesn't need to be human to wear a helmet. I feel that Nebula called Zurg that as more of an insult than anything else; Nebula doesn't exactly like the guy and he'll insult Zurg however he pleases LOL.
@Reece: please keep this topic about Zurg's species. Wanting to have the show back is fine, but that seems to require an entirely new thread on its own, so if you'd like to discuss your reasons for bringing the show back or why it should be brought back, please make a new topic thread. Thank you in advance!
And on that note, I'd like to send a friendly reminder to everyone about an important rule we have on the wikipedia: differences of opinion are fine, but it's important to keep civil and open-minded in a discussion such as this. Violations of this rule could result in being banned from contributing.
Hate to break it to you, but Idea Wiki is a fanon wiki. Everything on that wiki is made up by fans. You can't believe everything you read on the internet. It would be cool if they rebooted BLoSC, though.
By the way, as FoxStorm mentioned above, this thread is about Zurg's species. If you want to talk about how you wish they would reboot BLoSC, make a new thread. And if you want to post fanfiction, post it on the BLoSC forum, ok?